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January 12, 2008 at 11:36 pm

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chaz23

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Dont give up giving up! If you want to talk anytime pm me and we will exchange email addy’s & msn or skype if you have it.
January 13, 2008 at 2:03 am

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wingman

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e_babes wrote:

This sounds harsh –

If it makes you feel any better I had the same problems the 3rd time I went back to Subutex – (of course you wont feel better knowing that). You had opiates still in your body and unfortuneately went into a full blown cluck. 2 or 3 days of this would have been enough for you to be on your merry way to being sobre. Unfortuneately as heroin addicts, we worry about being ill and when your ill you gotta use, and nothing stands in the way of that…nothing.

I wish that they would prescribe you |Methadone but instead if you want to give up you do need to go through the pain barrier of the first few days. I would sugguest that the next time you try subutex make sure you are propper drug sick and I mean clucking hard. The longer you leave it from having your last line to taking the tablet (for the purpose of starting Subutex treatment) the better (in my opinion).

(Opinion based on personal experience)

Good luck. we have had a bit of luck a doctor has contacted us.because my wife has got sick .anyway i think we have a chance of a methadone but i dont know what to say what i mean we dont inject we sniff
it.do you think this is going to make any diffrence i dont want to mess this up
if he does not think we need this thats it.normaley you have to wait over a year for a meet but someone has pulled some strings for us to see the doc so
am not sure what to say.let me know what you think thanks
January 13, 2008 at 2:18 am

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wingman

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chaz23 wrote:

Dont give up giving up! If you want to talk anytime pm me and we will exchange email addy’s & msn or skype if you have it.
thanks mate its hard to deal with this. you know aweek ago i was looking at
some web site an ther was one guy telling some kid that its all good to use
the brown some times.i could not belive it once you start with this shit.you
open the gates of hell.
January 13, 2008 at 2:20 am

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Raj

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wingman wrote:

we have had a bit of luck a doctor has contacted us.because my wife has got sick .anyway i think we have a chance of a methadone but i dont know what to say what i mean we dont inject we sniff
it.do you think this is going to make any diffrence i dont want to mess this up
if he does not think we need this thats it.normaley you have to wait over a year for a meet but someone has pulled some strings for us to see the doc so
am not sure what to say.let me know what you think thanks

Sniffing or injecting you are still an opiate addict either way so yes the Dr should be able to help you 😉 Good luck
January 13, 2008 at 2:37 am

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wingman

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Greb wrote:

שלום אחי :bounce_fl

I’ve never had an opiate addiction either, so I even can’t imagine what you’re going through. You did so well in Romania by getting off the stuff, so maybe a solution for you is to change your location?

בהצלכה 🙂 i wish i could but saying that romania has very harsh
drug laws they give years and i mean like one kid got 7 years for having a gram.i was so unluckey.we had been through hell for months no sleep an then
it was over we felt good.an one day i give change to a gypse begger an that
was it i seen his arms.an i was back on it. that is how much power it has an me for being so weak.never go near the stuff
January 13, 2008 at 3:44 am

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bones

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wingman wrote:

Hi I have just been reading your ordeal know how you feel. to cut a long story short i used to live in the UK but now live in Israel started with the pills and the Charlie parties great but then 7 years ago a mate of mine gave me the brown stuff to try. At first i did not like it but then i got this nice buzz from it but as you know that does not last long. a year ago i went to Romania to work an get clean me and my wife went through…

Hell i thought i was never going to sleep again it was hell but we stuck it out. I had no choice could not find any gear there and six months past at last…

The life was back just pins an needles pain in the fingers. Started going out again life was back to normal some times felt a bit down but when i looked at all the cash i had i felt great. Anyway i was on my way to work one day and this gypse beggar asked me for some change i went to give him an then i noticed his arms had track marks. That was it, my bad luck he spoke
English he took me to some place an that was it. Before this I had never injected but he done it for me. After six months clean back on it and then my wife too. You know what its like i thought just one last time…

Anyway been back in Israel over a year an back on the gear 2 days ago. I tried Subutex again but it did not work. i will tell you what happend. I took my last line of gear at about 10.30 in the morning went out all day, got back to the house about 8 at night sniffed a few Clonex to make sure I slept till the next day but woke up 3.30 in mornig so I sniffed one more Clonex just to put me back to sleep. I woke up 11.30 felt ok, 24 hours had past, time for the subutex. Took 6mg felt ok just cold no energy so i took the rest of the subutex. 1 hour went past and then bang leg pains full with drawls. i was in a bad way so i sent the wife to see the man got a few bags
and some heads to sort me out. I don’t understand Subutex it is suppose to be the magic pill so what am I doing wrong I have been reading a lot about it and it all says no with drawl symptoms and full of energy.

The doctors here are no good. 2 years ago I went to a Methadone clinic. We waited one year for them to see us then they told us it’s not for you, first you have to fail at rehab, then we will speak. There is no way am going to any rehab it scares me after what I went through in Romania. I just want my life back with Methadone or Subutex but its so hard to get Methadone here also because I have a wife I got told they very rarely give it to couples.

So far we have been lucky to always have the cash to be gear. But I know the day is not
far away when the cash is not there. That’s what scares me. Waking up everyday and thinking where to get cash from. I have had it with this shit! Any advice you can give me will be good…

Bye for now…

PS: For the seven years I have been using I have been sniffing it apart from 6 months injecting in romainia.

Read carefully, MY YOUNG BROTHER WAS ON THAT CRAP FOR YEARS AND HE DIED LAST YEAR….It is a sad fact of life that some people get in to the wrong stuff and it fucks them up big, such as you!….

Why do you keep going on it again????…..You have stopped before and you can do it again….Rehab is no good, because they do not know how to treat the psychological part of the misuse….so you are clean in there, and then most people start again……As much as you dislike the Idea, from my experience as a drug counsellor.

NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS is the place for you! It is everywhere in the world, so no fucking excuses ok!…Get clean by going there and you will get all the help you need, it won’t be easy, but living the way you are is not either…go cold turkey for the last time, make it your last time, by not doing it again…

You are being fucking selfish, oh poor me! I want a BUZZ, POOR ME POOR ME, OH WHY ME!…

BECAUSE YOU ARE A DRUG ADDICT….you have to work on what keeps making you take the shit that will ruin your life, and you will spend every fucking penny on it, til you commit suicide….that’s all you have, learn to live without it again, or wait til the day comes when you cannot take anymore of your self inflicted hell…

No one forced you, you done it out of free will, it is all your own doing, and only you can undo it….. stop fucking moaning, do the turkey, and learn from you OWN FUCKING MISTAKES!!!!!!!!

GOOD LUCK DUDE……
January 14, 2008 at 12:15 am

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wingman

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bones wrote:

Read carefully, MY YOUNG BROTHER WAS ON THAT CRAP FOR YEARS AND HE DIED LAST YEAR….It is a sad fact of life that some people get in to the wrong stuff and it fucks them up big, such as you!….

Why do you keep going on it again????…..You have stopped before and you can do it again….Rehab is no good, because they do not know how to treat the psychological part of the misuse….so you are clean in there, and then most people start again……As much as you dislike the Idea, from my experience as a drug counsellor.

NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS is the place for you! It is everywhere in the world, so no fucking excuses ok!…Get clean by going there and you will get all the help you need, it won’t be easy, but living the way you are is not either…go cold turkey for the last time, make it your last time, by not doing it again…

You are being fucking selfish, oh poor me! I want a BUZZ, POOR ME POOR ME, OH WHY ME!…

BECAUSE YOU ARE A DRUG ADDICT….you have to work on what keeps making you take the shit that will ruin your life, and you will spend every fucking penny on it, til you commit suicide….that’s all you have, learn to live without it again, or wait til the day comes when you cannot take anymore of your self inflicted hell…

No one forced you, you done it out of free will, it is all your own doing, and only you can undo it….. stop fucking moaning, do the turkey, and learn from you OWN FUCKING MISTAKES!!!!!!!!

GOOD LUCK DUDE……

first sorrey to hear about your brother an you

are right what you are saying but i just have not got the strenth to fight this anymore. ive made up my mind to stop with this shit but with the help of some meds .an i will go to some na meetings am going to find it hard because i work over 11 hours a day.and on top of this i have to hide this from all the type of pepole i work with this would not go down well at all.but thanks
for advice.
January 17, 2008 at 5:24 pm

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Ellie_

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Agent Subby wrote:

Bravo my good friend.:love: :group_hug

Bravo Bravo Bravo!!!
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
January 17, 2008 at 10:37 pm

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wingman

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Motamba wrote:

Your comments bro’ just show how uneducated you are’

You can’t teach folks anything that they do not want to listen too.
Going cold turkey will just deal with addiction syndrome, how is one going to deal with all the emotional stuff and the cravings’

Subby suggests getting a script from a doctor, he will just get really addicted and never get off’
Subby is still trying, fourteen years I think he said’ shit he could of smashed all of that inside of four weeks and never looked back’

Can’t sleep and still trying to bust opiates’

Every body always looks to someone else for advice’

Go to a drug councilor, become seriously addicted to prescription meds and then like Subby spend the rest of your life trying to get off the damn things’

If it wasn’t so sad I would be laughing’ but seriously you take advice from another who is also trapped on opiates other than sticking the shit down the toilet just goes to show that folks don’t really want to get well again’

My advice would be to take the bull by the horns yourself and stop playing around with shit that will control you and your life for the rest of your life’

Find your self a Shaman’/healer that knows of this stuff and don’t feed doctors, cos you will never be free from drugs or all the emotional stuff that goes with them and their use’

It only takes one month to get clean, then you got the rest of your life infront of you to sort out the reasons of why you use’

Blessings’

Motamba’ nangona

The truth always wins’
Addicts are amazingly good at finding excuses and lying to themselves and others’

The only way to go is “Grow up and face your problems like and adult” no one else can fight your battles for you’
It is hard, understood, but it builds character.

Also just to add Ibogaine is non toxic and no addictive (so you wouldn’t be sticking toxic substances in your body’) and one usually only need to take it once in your whole life’
if it were that easy 1 month you say i wish.i went cold turkey in romaina the
onley reason i stayed clean because i did not know were to get it.it was hell
thats the onley word that comes to mind.i thought i was never going to sleep
again.it took 6 months before i felt ok.you would think after that i would never
go near it again.but after all i had been through.soon as i met some one ther
i was back on it. it takes a strong person to beat this shit.
January 18, 2008 at 1:32 am

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globalloon

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wingman wrote:

if it were that easy 1 month you say i wish.i went cold turkey in romaina the
onley reason i stayed clean because i did not know were to get it.it was hell
thats the onley word that comes to mind.i thought i was never going to sleep
again.it took 6 months before i felt ok.you would think after that i would never
go near it again.but after all i had been through.soon as i met some one ther
i was back on it. it takes a strong person to beat this shit.

i disagree with that

the physical side effects are like having flu and a tummy bug for a few days

the challenge is how to sort out your dull brain, which will you to go back to the old habit unless stimulated

H withdrawl, physiologically speaking, really isn’t that bad

it’s all in the mind
January 18, 2008 at 9:05 am

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bones

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bsnapool wrote:

Hi,

Was wondering if anyone could help me out. Just found out that a close one is on heroin which makes my skin crawl, but will do my up most to make him get off the dirty stuff!!

He not willing to go to doctors and prescribe him some subutex. Can you buy these online without the need of a prescription? Any help would be most helpful and appreciated, feel free to pm me or leave replay on this forum.

If he is not willing to go to the doctor, then there is absolutely nothing you can do…my brother died of that shit last year, 15 years of fucking hell, in and out of prison, rehab, the works, did no good, and he was willing to stop…so you have no hope unless he recognises he has a big problem…most addicts will take the methodone and subutex on top of their smack…its a cheaper buzz!…The sad thing is that You can’t stop him no matter what you do…As far as he/she is concerned, it is ‘YOU’ THAT HAS THE PROBLEM, AND NOT THE ADDICT!…You can’t help unless he/she wants help…There are thousands of websites for addiction, look them up and get advice, but you will soon realise, you can’t stop, or even help, until he/she is ready!!!!!!
January 18, 2008 at 9:13 am

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bones

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Raj wrote:

Dont know if this one is any use to anybody but I liked it when I stumbled upon it:

FEAR = false expectations appear real

FEAR = False evidence appears REAL!!!:bounce_fl
January 21, 2008 at 12:04 pm

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globalloon

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just received this

WARNING: HEROIN CIRCULATING WITH HIGHER THAN AVERAGE PURITY
ISSUED 17th Jan 2008

This information is designed for all heroin users. Please take a moment to read it and pass it on to other people.

It has come to the notice of the Devon and Cornwall Police that forensic tests on heroin seized across the two counties has indicated that heroin is circulating with a higher than average purity.
All heroin users should be vigilant as this could increase the risk of overdose.

To reduce your risk of overdose (o/d):
• Make sure someone is around when you use heroin (if you o/d alone nobody can help).
• Try to smoke heroin and avoid injecting (you’re more likely to o/d if you inject).
• Avoid using heroin with other drugs, especially alcohol, methadone or downers/sleepers, e.g. benzodiazepines, anti-depressants etc (mixing drugs increases your risk of o/d).
• If you’ve just come out of jail, detox or rehab, use heroin in very small amounts (your body won’t be used to heroin).
• Use heroin in smaller amounts, especially if your supply seems different (but remember you can’t tell what’s in it by looking at it and your dealer probably won’t know what’s in it either).

Our best advice is, wherever possible, to avoid using heroin completely.

If anyone OVERDOSES or becomes seriously ill from using drugs,
DIAL 999 IMMEDIATELY AND ASK FOR AN AMBULANCE – this can save their life.

Information produced by Safer Communities Torbay on behalf of the Peninsula DAATs.
For further info contact 01803 841440. Please remove this leaflet from circulation/display after February 15th 2008. [V01/08]
January 22, 2008 at 1:35 pm

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spangle

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I remeber the same letter going round reading couple of years ago, a load of gearheads died from ODing..
February 1, 2008 at 10:59 pm

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Asdf

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Had a convo with someone about brown specky pills “having heroin in them”. I told that it was probably a cutting agent as heroin in those small amount probably wouldn’t have any effect, not to mention it would be a waste of money to stick it in.

Any way, I did hear that if you were to eat heroin, would it actually do anything?
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