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As this thread has been dug up agiain I would like to apologise for my previous post, I was only just turned 16 and was very naive when it came to drug abuse. I have learnt a lot from this site and others and understand that what I said was rather crass and stupid and think I should apologise.

I don’t sell Ibogaine’

I teach folks how to use it safely in a safe enviroment so that they may get from it of whatever they seek’

My morals are sound’
Not grounded on “money”
But on the healing power of the “Teacher plants’

Too many folks get into things an have no single clue of how to get out of them’

I learnt and now teach others’

You want Ibogaine, then go and buy it’

It is freely available’

How to use a powerful psychadelic substance to aid in the interuption of adiction is a totally different story’

It is not something that should be attempted by oneself without prior knowledge of the plants use’

Death as you say has occured by folks being disrespectful by taking other substances’
Poor health due to fixing blood poisoning, organ failure’
Inhaling of ones own vomit due to not using the said substance correctly’

It is all about education bro’
I can guarantee you that of the knowledge I have gained from these plants and their uses is far above of what any so called doctor knows’

It is not my choice that someone takes Ibogaine/Iboga.

They seek out this plant because it can aid in killing retardent withrawal’
Also aid in giving one the strength to walk through withdrawal syndrome’

As to your comment that it has not been studied’
Ther is extensive knowledge and on going study of the molecule Ibogaine and it’s uses as in addiction interuption.
It has been found useful also in the treatment of Parkinsons, depessions’ compulsive dissorders’ an many other ills related to psychological problems’

You seem to forget of where Iboga’ comes from my friend’

Of where it grows Iboga is a part of every day life’

Used in ritual ceremony and healings’

Just cos it is little known by most doesn’t mean it has no chance of working’

Iboga is able to strip one of all bad programing bringing one to a point of where parent concious and social conciousness have no sway upon the persona’ the ego dies and instinctual self is left to the clearing’
Instinctual self is a better problem solver’
Parent conciousnss is proved to be flaud due to bad programing of parents in the first place’

The box can’t see it’s a box kind of so tells the children of what it thinks it believes.
As adults we should learn of this stuff for ourselves and take rewsponsibility for our lives’
Addictions and psychologicasl problems prevent this’

The addict stays imature as do the sick who look for others to answers that should come from self’

People always seem to look to others for advice/dirrection.

The only real truth is that if it came from another man, no matter how sound it may sound, it did not come from your own heart and spirit’

“We learn good lessons by our seriously bad mistakes’

We at the end of the day have to do the living, no one else can do this for us’
My ancestors attest to this fact”

Blessings’

Motamba’

He obviously doesn’t want any help and until he does let him carry on until he does. But for Gods sake tell him to toot it then at least he’ll still be alive to tell the tale. If you want to check out and ring my workplace feel free to do so.http://www.lifeline.org.uk/ Ask for Gary. He is very very intelligent on all drug subjects. BTW it’s a harm reduction charity and no we detest the ‘JUST SAY NO’ crappy saying. Good luck. Safe.

The lifeline project provides help and support for those afflicted by drug and alcohol addiction problems. Drugs/info including cocaine, heroin, crack cocaine, heroin facts, alcohol, health, drug addiction, heroin addiction, drug information, information, help, support, guidance, truth, lifeline, problems.

Ten Things I would do if I Ruled the World.

1. Stop Criminalising Drug Users

I would stop criminalising and punishing drug users and to this end I would remove all crimes of possession from the statute.

2. An Integrated Classification and Policy Framework for All Drugs

I would move towards integrating alcohol, tobacco and illicit substances into a common classification as per the recommendations of the 2006 Report of the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee, ‘Making a Hash of It’.

3. Greater Candour about the Failure of the Global Strategy to Control Supply and Cultivation.

I would be more candid about the global failure to control the cultivation and supply of illegal drugs.

4. Drug Testing only when Public Safety is the Paramount Issue

I would encourage drug testing only where issues of public safety were of paramount importance.

Coming on to the Drug Treatment Industry.

5. The Role of Nice and The Health Care Commission.

I would continue to support the work of NICE in developing guidance for commissioners about research validated interventions of proven efficacy. People talk about NICE in the context of its rationing role and also the strict criteria it uses concerning admissable research.

In respect of the recent NICE guidance on the Psychosocial Management of Drug Misuse there have been concerns expressed about too much reliance being placed on random control trials, most of which were conducted in the United States.

Notwithstanding these concerns, however, one of the most interesting things the Guideline Development Group identified was a number of different kinds of success achieved as a result of positive reward via Contingency Management. Following on from these findings, The National Treatment Agency is already moving towards the early introduction of Contingency Management programmes in this country. This major piece of innovation is moving quickly and that is encouraging.

I would also support the developing work of the Health Care Commission in monitoring standards of assessment and care. Despite having much to be proud of in terms of our achievements during the 10 year lifetime of the first National Drug Strategy, the Health Care Commission, in their joint review with the National Treatment Agency, has pointed to the worrying fact that a significant minority of our services are just not very good.

6. We need a new Independent Research Foundation to Evaluate the Impact of our Industry.

To augment the work of these two bodies I would create a third body. This would be an independent research foundation whose role was to determine the impact and effectiveness of the UK National Drug Strategy and the Drug Treatment Industry. For too long we have escaped independent evaluation of this kind.

7. A National Developmental Programme to raise standards of Governance in Our Sector.
I would resource a national developmental programme designed to raise standards of governance in the non-statutory drugs treatment sector. This programme would emphasise the role of trustees in strategic leadership on a sector-wide basis.

I think improvements in governance and trusteeship would bring a greater independence to large and small drug treatment charities. It would, more than any other single change, facilitate a shift from short-termism to a longer-term perspective. It would go someway towards guaranteeing that drug users were re-installed as the major and proper beneficiaries of our industry and broad strategic planning.

It would enable trustee bodies to look outward and to speak each to the other, organisation to organisation, thus strengthening our sector and certainly enhancing our ability to mount more effective campaigns.

8. Plan Young People’s Drug Services around a Broad Health and Well-being Agenda

I would encourage the integration of young people’s drug services into local area services designed to address and respond to the broad range of young people’s health needs.

9. An Ongoing Series of Health Need Assessments designed to identify the Invisible Populations.

I would commission, via a range of research methods, an on-going series of health need assessments, designed to identify those groups and populations that the current National Drug Strategy renders invisible.

10 A Major Programme of Health Literacy built from the ground up.

I would resource a major programme of Health Literacy developed in close association with service users, drug users not in treatment, drug information services and public health professionals. These campaigns would utilise an early warning system comprised of a national network of volunteer respondents. It would be a barefoot version of Frank.

Everything we have learned about health literacy at Lifeline indicates that the most empowering public health campaigns are those which involve most thoroughly the target audience for whom the messages are intended.

Ian Wardle 12th October 2007

Now if you read this by our chief exec I’m sure you’ll be impresseds enough to get him or her down there rapido. Good Luck.:wink:

Bump!, i agree, i think uve said enuf about ibogaine, its now just getting to the point of spam, and noone likes reconstituted pork products in a can

as someone whose never been addicted to opiates, im just saying on the level of the messages of mamboosa(?) and like u said fair enuf its worked for him but i dont think there will ever be an answer to heroin addiction, other than just going cold turkey, anyway u look at it, your still putting other toxins in your body(unless drinking lots of water and eating well would be a good idea)

but yeah like i said, really he shouldve just done a new thread talking about ibotogaine, then just left it at that, instead of hi-jacking everyone elses

I mean no disrespect Motamba because you do talk some sense (about sorting the underlying problems out and the importance of self-responsibility and its associated understanding of the extent of one’s personal power to change) but I am just wary of someone who says ‘my way is the only way’.

An I worry that people out there may come to believe that unless they do it with Ibogaine there is no way they will be able to get free of heroin or whatever it is they want free of.

That attitude is narrowing the window of choice which would seem to me to be counterproductive.

It is possible to successfully beat a serious heroin addiction without Ibogaine, a possiblity which you seem to be totally denying