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Heeeeere we go again 😉

@Iacchus 313642 wrote:

an incorrect assumption 😉 most people dont beleive in the ‘christian’ idea of god but you’d be suprised how many people beleive in some sort of divine intelligence

@O-D 313644 wrote:

Tis true as it is unfortunate

The only thing I object to in religeon is the fact that people that belong to one still believe the ancient assumptions about life based around their imagination of what they didn’t know about. Such as creationism ect ect.

With new scientific FACTS it would be ignorant of for some people to not accept them as such. The problem with religion is that they are not open to development to new ideas or developing the religion and beliefs based on new things learnt around the world. Despite these new found facts, they still grip to the original texts 99% which is almost completely fiction.

Don’t get me wrong, I am a very understanding person and try to keep as much on the fence until I know all the facts. With this in mind, I would never deny that there is no God like creature/entity/ball of gas because beyond our universe/multiverse/dimensions, we have absolutely no Idea.

However due to the things learnt through scientific studies, I have moulded my beliefs around truths and proven wrongs. Although this is going to sound really arrogant (Although many many many believe the same), but this view is the future way of thinking…

Think of the biggest killer in the world. Religion. All arguing over most things which are absurd (Not everyone of course). The only thing I can think of that couldn’t be proven is what god/gods there are, and what they would want us to do – if anything. Imagine if everyone could understand that. Just that simple belief could make the world a hugely happier place to live for alot of people.

Life would still be interesting. In my circle of friends and 99% of people Ive met and would be on my level, never even discuss this unless to more or less to agree anyway. So it doesn’t fall under the “if we were all the same life would be boring” category.

Buuuut. This is my rant over. I’ve tried this before on here, and to be honest meant this to be a little shorter but got carried away. You think you are right, I definitely know I am right. You will never convert me, I will never convert you. Except you’d feel like you should have if you hadn’t of tried, to help people believe the “truth” …

@O-D 313680 wrote:

Science kills religion, there is no compatibility of the two.

Faith is a virtue remember.

Show me evidence that shows the totality of existance and proves there is no God in any sense.

Im not talking about Buddism, Christianity or Muslim ect… Just a “God”

i tend to not make things clear for everyone when i post, i meant organised religion gods

my allegiances lay with leprachauns, a harrr dey harrrr dey heeeey

Did I mean that? I don’t think so.
I never mentioned anything organised.
I’m talking about the million persons worshipped God and the one man worshipping God. They’re all the same, just as fallacious as the next.

The existence of a God in probability is just as probable as my thumb turning into £50 note.
Both are equally probable so I might as well pray for the money.
At least I’ll definitely have something in my hand that I can see.

The very absurdity that God is so complex as to be not understood is the pinnacle reason of why he doesn’t exist.
Everything that exists can or will be proved to exist by evidence, to claim that something is above that is something not worth even mentioning in a footnote.

Science dispproves God existance by proving everything else with evidence. Evidence of God is non-existant.
The stuff that exists that we have yet to prove by evidence is being proved to exist by scientists through scientific experiments.
Anyone who doesn’t believe in science will believe in anything.

I am not a fundamentalist in any respect, I am 99.99% sure that God (in any form) does not exist. Noone has been able to prove God exists, the 00.01% is because we haven’t been able to disprove God, unicorn, toothfairy, Santa Clause, leprachauns, pixies, elves, demons and whatever else comes out of the imaginiation of humans either.

@O-D 313644 wrote:

Tis true as it is unfortunate

@Dom_sufc 313678 wrote:

Heeeeere we go again 😉

The only thing I object to in religeon is the fact that people that belong to one still believe the ancient assumptions about life based around their imagination of what they didn’t know about. Such as creationism ect ect.

With new scientific FACTS it would be ignorant of for some people to not accept them as such. The problem with religion is that they are not open to development to new ideas or developing the religion and beliefs based on new things learnt around the world. Despite these new found facts, they still grip to the original texts 99% which is almost completely fiction.

Don’t get me wrong, I am a very understanding person and try to keep as much on the fence until I know all the facts. With this in mind, I would never deny that there is no God like creature/entity/ball of gas because beyond our universe/multiverse/dimensions, we have absolutely no Idea.

However due to the things learnt through scientific studies, I have moulded my beliefs around truths and proven wrongs. Although this is going to sound really arrogant (Although many many many believe the same), but this view is the future way of thinking…

Think of the biggest killer in the world. Religion. All arguing over most things which are absurd (Not everyone of course). The only thing I can think of that couldn’t be proven is what god/gods there are, and what they would want us to do – if anything. Imagine if everyone could understand that. Just that simple belief could make the world a hugely happier place to live for alot of people.

Life would still be interesting. In my circle of friends and 99% of people Ive met and would be on my level, never even discuss this unless to more or less to agree anyway. So it doesn’t fall under the “if we were all the same life would be boring” category.

Buuuut. This is my rant over. I’ve tried this before on here, and to be honest meant this to be a little shorter but got carried away. You think you are right, I definitely know I am right. You will never convert me, I will never convert you. Except you’d feel like you should have if you hadn’t of tried, to help people believe the “truth” …

@O-D 313680 wrote:

Science kills religion, there is no compatibility of the two.

Faith is a virtue remember.

@Dom_sufc 313681 wrote:

Show me evidence that shows the totality of existance and proves there is no God in any sense.

Im not talking about Buddism, Christianity or Muslim ect… Just a “God”

@O-D 313682 wrote:

Show me proof there is.

I cannot say for certain there is no God as God has not been disproven, and yet God is unprovable which makes him equally improbable.

Science is building up evidence to the proof of no God, Religion has none to the contrary.

@O-D 313720 wrote:

Did I mean that? I don’t think so.
I never mentioned anything organised.
I’m talking about the million persons worshipped God and the one man worshipping God. They’re all the same, just as fallacious as the next.

The existence of a God in probability is just as probable as my thumb turning into £50 note.
Both are equally probable so I might as well pray for the money.
At least I’ll definitely have something in my hand that I can see.

The very absurdity that God is so complex as to be not understood is the pinnacle reason of why he doesn’t exist.
Everything that exists can or will be proved to exist by evidence, to claim that something is above that is something not worth even mentioning in a footnote.

Science dispproves God existance by proving everything else with evidence. Evidence of God is non-existant.
The stuff that exists that we have yet to prove by evidence is being proved to exist by scientists through scientific experiments.
Anyone who doesn’t believe in science will believe in anything.

I am not a fundamentalist in any respect, I am 99.99% sure that God (in any form) does not exist. Noone has been able to prove God exists, the 00.01% is because we haven’t been able to disprove God, unicorn, toothfairy, Santa Clause, leprachauns, pixies, elves, demons and whatever else comes out of the imaginiation of humans either.

Did I mean that? I don’t think so.
I never mentioned anything organised.
I’m talking about the million persons worshipped God and the one man worshipping God. They’re all the same, just as fallacious as the next.

Ok. Firstly, I mistook Poly’s post for one of yours. That’s what the reference of “Organised Religions” was about.

The existence of a God in probability is just as probable as my thumb turning into £50 note.
Both are equally probable so I might as well pray for the money.
At least I’ll definitely have something in my hand that I can see.

Probability is relative to what we know. Imagine 500 years ago based on what they knew, would it not be more probable that the world was flat? Probability means fuck all in this instance. Not to mention, back to the original principle of this, it is proven your thumb could NEVER on a normal day turn in a £50 note. However, there is no evidence showing there is no God. Again, Im not talking about religion to make that clear.

The very absurdity that God is so complex as to be not understood is the pinnacle reason of why he doesn’t exist.
Everything that exists can or will be proved to exist by evidence, to claim that something is above that is something not worth even mentioning in a footnote.

You misread what I wrote. I said “Even if we were talking about probability, could you not say that the existence of a God could be so complex that finding it could only come as a result of millions of years of scientific study?”

I never said he could not be understood if it were to exist. If everything is indeed infinite, then it it’s a fact that we would eventually learn the secrets. Again, assuming he is real.

Science dispproves God existance by proving everything else with evidence. Evidence of God is non-existant.
The stuff that exists that we have yet to prove by evidence is being proved to exist by scientists through scientific experiments.
Anyone who doesn’t believe in science will believe in anything.

First sentence has no validity. The only time we could disprove a god’s role in our existence (Although i stress I mean universes, planets ect, not life) is if we knew everything else. Almost like telling me there is a piece missing from a jigsaw puzzle without counting, or trying complete the jigsaw first.

Secondly, you cannot becoming on the way to prove something. You can try, but until you actually have, you cannot say you are on the way. Any scientist that makes that claim is an idiot and stands to contradict his entire career and purpose. They make theories, then they prove or disprove and state them as fact, or fiction. Simple.

As for the last sentence, you’re just generalising and not worth going into.

I am not a fundamentalist in any respect, I am 99.99% sure that God (in any form) does not exist. Noone has been able to prove God exists, the 00.01% is because we haven’t been able to disprove God, unicorn, toothfairy, Santa Clause, leprachauns, pixies, elves, demons and whatever else comes out of the imaginiation of humans either.

So now the edit I have just seen… So despite what you have written before, you now admit there’s a 0.01% of your mind that a “god” COULD exist. You are contradicting yourself.

Not to mention, I can barely tell which meaning of God and it’s difference between religion as It seems to differ in your paragraphs. So to clear up, God to me means a being/entity/blob ect that is more than we understand and may have had a part in creating the existence of everything. Religion normally revolved around a book created by people with desire to fill the gaps of the unknown using their imaginations based on what they believed (99.99% of which has been disproved)

i find this really difficult to read:cry:

Ok, not 00.01%, starting from now speak the words ‘point zero’ and repeat the second word over and over again until the last breath you breathe then say ‘one percent’; counting that you won’t kill yourself or die by other means anytime soon that is how much I believe God exists.
And the only reason I have that 0.000 recurring 1 percentage is because ANYTHING can be said to be true but because you can’t disprove it you can’t say it doesn’t exist.
It’s just a ridiculous endless circle, made up at some point in time.
Person A: “Flasty the naughty demon elf squirrel of the Universal Boutique of Clarity exists!”
Person B: “No it doesn’t!”
Person A: “Prove it!”
Person B: “I can’t!”
Person A: “So it exists!”

Why can’t we understand it? If we can’t understand it where did we get even the notion of it?
It’s the human desire to make up an answer so quick and easy to preach to make people feel better about dieing, that something HAS to have made up this universe and so has a plan for us because if it’s one thing we’re good at, it’s following orders, hell most of us beg for someone to tell us what to do.
We can’t accept that we’re just part of the evolutionary cycle and that we’re no better then the rest of everything else, except God of course.
If there’s a plan for us there’s a purpose for us being here. People need a purpose and they’ll believe the most outlandish things to gain one.

The problem with your good self is you’re too much on the fence, you’ve been swayed by each side so many times that you feel it’s safer to keep perched on the fence but believe in God anyway just incase.

By the way, the last post I put I can remember about a quarter of what I put. I was K’ed at the time and it made perfect sense. I like it enough to defend what I said anyway! raaaraaa