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Best of luck Ladywolf,
A fresh start could be just what you need to help you on your way……
:group_hug
that definatly sounds like good news!!well done and i hope things move quick and smooth for you..this is definatly something you can use for your advantage in quiting!!:wink:
couple days ago because of the good news, i let down my guard and came back to taking 0.5g a day, as if celebrating…common addict party..common way of bad thinking…which then i regret later on. So i remembered u guys in this forum and i felt bad, so i decided to fight back on my dose and start lowering down again. I suffer like hell.especially i forced 0.5g for 3 days. last night i could not sleep and has vivid nightmares of ghost and stuff like that. I struggle not to take more because if i take then i would not be successful into lowering my dose.
Now i want to maintain 0.5gram for 3 days before i go any lower. But i want to try 0.5gram for 4 days. see whether or not i can do that.
I guess this is really this psychological thing about heroin. Last night i took just the same dose like i took any other night, but the difference is, i dont have spare for the next morning (last night), while i always have spares for the next morning on all the other night. And the outcome?
Even with the same dosage, last night i couldnt sleep at all! worried, anxious, because i dont have any in possession. But if i still have some in possession, then i sleep just fine. I guess any of u must have understand what the heck i am talking about. Isnt it weird? dont u think its weird?
I do!
I tried to fight with my own mind last night but came to a fail. Causing me unable to sleep and i have bad bad nightmares
I guess i ‘ll just pass the details about the nightmares…..
so i struggled from last night until today at 10am. I managed to get some puffs.to make me feel better.
I am thinking this past few days as i am about to get off from this shit…
sometimes..i am just too tired to buy..like last night..even though i know the outcome..i might get tortured the whole night because of it. But i still fell like : damn it! i am strong enough! i want to quit.period.
But as the time comes by, no more hero in me, starting to feel miserable and called my dealer at 4am which i get scolded at. And the weather today is awful. The wind is so strong and it is raining like hell. So i only manage to get some stuff at 10 am. After being tortured from 12 am till now.
But what it doesnt make sense to me is, i took just the same dose! the only difference is that i dont have spare and the other nights i have spares for the next morning. And it turn me crazy. I keep on telling my body , what is wrong with u? the H should be enough until the next morning! so shut up! This monster…this monster inside me…just craving for more and making me crazy…it is a real monster..! when it craves..it makes me unable to eat nor sleep..and as if something is really inside me and want to take H! Me, i prefer sleep. but this monster..; prefers H instead
read this story about me..i know u wont believe it..its up to u…
http://www.heroin-detox.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7001
at the very bottom..the last post..it is a story…the story..about the monster inside my head…
how about yours? do u have one?
I have had a monster and I learnt to control it through meditation and zen buddhism. It was always telling me I was useless and no one would ever love me for who I was.
It was wrong just as yours is wrong :group_hug
It is the fear of the unknown which is feeding your monster. When you know what comes next [having some for tomorrow] then it is quiet but as soon as you are anxious its back. You need to shut it up.
Something which helped me was pretending it spoke in a silly voice as then I just laughed at it instead of taking it seriously. The fear that feeds it is partly what makes it bigger and when the fear isnt there it starts to shrink in size again back to normal size and one day disappear.
Ye maybe you should try lowering your heroin dose really slowly? that might get you off in a couple of weeks or months with very as little withdrawal as poss. How close are you to old friends/relatives and that sort of thing because having a couple of friends around helps more than any chemical I’ve ever heard of.
Has no one explained that subutex is a partial opioid antagonist?
This means that if you take heroin on top you will go into withdrawls!
Your causing yourself more pain by using on top… one or the other!
:you_crazy
the poor thing is…i am the only junkie i know…
and then…my friends are all church people who doesnt know shit abut drugs
and my parents told me to practically just kill myself because they want no more trouble from me
thats why i call myself pathethic
these several few days..i am starting to wonder what kind of heroin am i actually using..??
i remember when i was back in jakarta, i used whit powder heroin, sometimes it came in small stones..and when i used it, i get high, closing my eyes but still fully awake..all of u must have known the meaning and what or how does it feel.
But his heroin i am taking in china now, is really..what i call weird…i dont get high…instead, i will fell asleep. i feel like i am abusing sleeping pills instead of heroin!
So when i am supposedly to be in a high state, i will fall asleep instead.
So i am starting to think, is it me? or the heroin?
Because of it, i am sleeping almost all day long everyday..!No high feelings..just wanting to sleep or fall asleep right there on the spot.
I did not experience the high as when i was using H in jakarta.
if people say i fall asleep becos i am tired or didnt have enough sleep, thats practically impossible, becos i sleep all the time!
i do not get high. All i do is..taking sevreal puffs…until i fall asleep..then when i am awake…i take several puffs again..and missed the high feeling..i just fall asleep!
could it possibly be your bodies way of shutting down to deal with whats being put into it?
the body heals better when resting, do you feel better when youve come out of this sleep like state?
ladywolf i am a ex junkie to an the bad dreams are bacause of the smack withdrawal i have done it befor and the longer you take comeing of it the longer the dreams will last!listen to nirvana (on a plane)..best thing to do is to just stop!!!please belive me these dreams dont last long and befor you know it your thinking FUCK me what was i woried about honest it aint that bad…all the best..:group_hug
i remember when i was back in jakarta, i used whit powder heroin, sometimes it came in small stones..and when i used it, i get high, closing my eyes but still fully awake..all of u must have known the meaning and what or how does it feel.
But his heroin i am taking in china now, is really..what i call weird…i dont get high…instead, i will fell asleep. i feel like i am abusing sleeping pills instead of heroin!
So when i am supposedly to be in a high state, i will fall asleep instead.
So i am starting to think, is it me? or the heroin?
Because of it, i am sleeping almost all day long everyday..!No high feelings..just wanting to sleep or fall asleep right there on the spot.
I did not experience the high as when i was using H in jakarta.
if people say i fall asleep becos i am tired or didnt have enough sleep, thats practically impossible, becos i sleep all the time!
i do not get high. All i do is..taking sevreal puffs…until i fall asleep..then when i am awake…i take several puffs again..and missed the high feeling..i just fall asleep!
sorry didnt read it in full the h your useing now is probably alot stronger than in jakarta especialy if it puts you on your arse like you say.what i said ubove is well true as ive done it so many times befor its stupid (clean now for about 1 year) honest listen to what ive got to say its bad at first but its the easyest way beleive me!!
OK folks’
Of what you fight is called retardent withdrawl’
The craving and emotional stuff of the drug seaching syndrome’
You do not need to go to your doctor and get help with addiction’
There is Ibogaine’ treatment’
Methadone is possibly 10x stronger than “H” so why give it if not only for crowd control’
Your doctor only has limited resource through pharmacutical companies monopolies’ and he has never had to experience first hand the hell of trying to kick Meth or any other opiate’ or narcotic substance’
I work as a healer’
I was addicted to Methadone “H” “Coke” wizz, alcolhol benzos and all the other wonderful micky mouse substances that go with doctors.
I eventually had enough of being used as a ginea pig so sought my owen healing’
Retardent withdrawl last a possible 15 years from narcotic substances.
I killed the whole syndome withdawal and all inside of 6 weeks and have never looked back since’
and now help others on the same road’
I can hold and taste the crap I used to take to stay well and have no emotional attachement to it whatsoever’
You know the feeling when ya guts turn over and ya head and body says yes’
It is ugly’
Ibogaine kills this’
She whitewalls body memories and allows one to trancsend addiction syndomes’
All the other things that you take just keep folks in a job.
I know I tried everything known to so called doctors for nearly 23 years’
All that pain and suffering was gone after Ibogaine inside of 4 weeks’
Not even your average detox has took the pain out of your legs by then’
There are many many wonderful plants that can help with the withdrawl syndrome that are not addictive’
So why the fuck take Methadone’
It will take you at least 21 days to get blood clean, over three weeks of rattling and shaking with a psychotic head’
Then you got to deal with the craving’ the old life style that got you addicted in the first place’
I am serious here folks.
Get educated away from feeding other folks with your health’
I haven’t seen a conventional so called doctor in over five years’
Not bad for someone who just used to chase him for a script’
Blessings’
Motamba’ nangona’
Much more relevant to my mind is how is Ladywolf doing? Havent heard from her in a while and I am worried about how she is.
Alrighty guys just been chatting it over with a guy in work today about kicking his 3g a day 11 year habit about what stuff helped.
The one that he mentioned that was best was the kratom, especially Thai Kratom as it creates an opiate like buzz that staved off the withdrawal for the first 3 (and supposedly according to him worst days). He then began to move to Maeng Da kratom to keep him awake to avoid sleeping but still give the opiate buzz.
Anyway I thought I’d share as he says that the kratom got him further than he’d ever, in 11 years, made it before so it must help.
The one that he mentioned that was best was the kratom, especially Thai Kratom as it creates an opiate like buzz that staved off the withdrawal for the first 3 (and supposedly according to him worst days). He then began to move to Maeng Da kratom to keep him awake to avoid sleeping but still give the opiate buzz.
Anyway I thought I’d share as he says that the kratom got him further than he’d ever, in 11 years, made it before so it must help.
ive just got clean my self with subutex.but am no expert their is lots of
people on this site that helped me with info.never heard of kratom.
your in the right place for info on getting clean.tell your mate to
have a look at the site.
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