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  • 3 grams canny beleve that…

    MrAHC wrote:
    3 grams canny beleve that…

    Scottish gear is reknowned for being ridiculously bad, especially in some circles. I know of people who have over a 2g habit so 3 didn’t seem beyond this guy.

    Anyhow whether the guys quantities were exact is not the issue the fact is that Kratim can be very good for helping people kick opiates. He isn’t the only one who says it helps, we get a lot of people with habits coming in for it.

    elretardo87 wrote:
    Scottish gear is reknowned for being ridiculously bad, especially in some circles. I know of people who have over a 2g habit so 3 didn’t seem beyond this guy.

    Anyhow whether the guys quantities were exact is not the issue the fact is that Kratim can be very good for helping people kick opiates. He isn’t the only one who says it helps, we get a lot of people with habits coming in for it.
    kratim what is it. is it one of them legal drugs.? an were is it sold.

    /me is doing some research on this stuff so will be back soon with some answers.

    It turns out that Kratom is widely discussed on the internet, like Ibogaine, and is often suggested as a alternative to opiate withdrawel.

    It turns out there is info in WIKI and Erroid about the plant.

    It says that the effects are like taking a doseage of Codeine with a stimulant effect. So we have the body numbing to help with the pain and the stimulant effect to help with the mind. At low doses it acts as a stimulant, at higher doses its effects compare that to taking a high dosage of codein with its heroin like effects (small pupils, sweating, constipation etc)

    It is possible that this plant will be habit forming and there are addicts in South East Asia where the plant is found.

    Its chewed, made into tea but very rarely smoked.

    There are no human trials on the drug, but there are plenty of reports from users who claim the benefits when trying to move from harder opiates.

    it is illegal in only some countries and has recently been put on the American “To watch and discuss possible illegal drugs” list. It apears it is legal in the UK for the moment.

    I’ve missed plenty of info out but I’d think the bullet points would be enough for you to find more info out if you need it.

    As I said, Erroid, WIKI, Sagewisdom all describe the plant and so your first stop for info could be found there.

    Are there any other users of this plant out there who can describe in detail ‘exactly’ what its like? Its not an alternative that I would suggest right now but I think it would be ideal in coming off small amounts of smak or DF’s or codeine.

    We help a lot of people in the shop coming off hard drugs and kratom has been the most successful of the starting blocks.

    I have tried it a few times….I personally take it by powdering it and eating it in a yoghurt and its very effective at knocking you on your arse. I duno how to compare it to opiates as I don’t touch them….not even the painkillers.

    Anyhow its not just the one guy that reckons its decent….and I’m not claiming its liek ibogaine and cures you instantly but it supposedly makes it a hell of a lot easier to get through the first week.

    Try this ..

    Take less dosing and taper off. Take 2 Tums 15 mins and take 1/2 your dose for one week, the take 1/4 and so on , Yes just plain old over the counter “Tums” . The Tums antiacid actually holds the Nod longer and you can take less amounts of any opiates. This will help with the coming off gradually if you truly want to get off opiates. Sounds silly I know but it works.

    Good Luck!

    elretardo87 wrote:
    We help a lot of people in the shop coming off hard drugs and kratom has been the most successful of the starting blocks.

    I have tried it a few times….I personally take it by powdering it and eating it in a yoghurt and its very effective at knocking you on your arse. I duno how to compare it to opiates as I don’t touch them….not even the painkillers.

    Anyhow its not just the one guy that reckons its decent….and I’m not claiming its liek ibogaine and cures you instantly but it supposedly makes it a hell of a lot easier to get through the first week.

    yeah i have tryed kratom b4 ..it knocked me flat out as well … made tea with the powder … not a good idea as it doesn’t taste very nice .. kinda like rank green tea …. i heared its sucsessfull as a h substitute in the country it comes from ..alltho i forget what country that is but iirc it’s one that grows opium ..i belive that kratom is also adictive tho .. not sure how much in comparison to h tho hope that helps a bit and doesn’t confuse things a bit for you as the info is a bit patchy

    interesting stuff,
    not heard of this,

    have ibogaine ( and no not from mr ibogaine here only but other people who have treid useing it to get clean)

    Tank Girl wrote:
    interesting stuff,
    not heard of this,

    have ibogaine ( and no not from mr ibogaine here only but other people who have treid useing it to get clean)

    here this will have more info than i can recall:wink:

    http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml

    So is Kratom available in head shops over here then? – Wikid. I know what to do when I run out of meth next time (Methadone, not the crystal shite) :crazy:

    Its in head shops in Britain.

    I am on a methadone program and get tested for it aswel as drugs.

    I made a mistake and used but can no way give a positive or I am in HUGE trouble.

    Is it possible to add methadone mixture to a clean urine sample?

    If not then what can I do.

    I really need your help here.

    Is there no way you can be honest with them – maybe your script isnt holding you and you need an increse if your using on top?

    and I’m guessing your suggestion will work –

    but it depends on how vigerously they test urine as there possibly could be a chance they may be able to tell its ‘undigested’ meth and you may end up in (to use your words) ‘more trouble’ –

    also it may discolour the urine and they could guess from the green / blue tint…….

    I don’t know how opiate testing specifically works, but I very much doubt putting methadone directly into your urine will have the desired effect.

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