@extraslim 441740 wrote:
evidence of what? an afterlife not being possible? in which case the vast amount of knowledge we have about the physical world. I am not saying its proven not to, just that the evidence suggests it doesn’t. And that’s not really the point anyway, what evidence is there to suggest it does is the more significant question? You cant prove I dont have a purple and green monkey on my lap but that doesn’t mean you should entertain the idea that I do.
Yes but all that aside again I go back to the point of which I am making. Anything is possible, I am not blindly saying there is but again my point, Anything is possible. Just because there’s some evidence of the physical world doesn’t mean that an afterlife isn’t possible, again it’s human arrogance to assume we know it all. Hence why I sit on the fence and say it could be possible. It’s not saying there is or isn’t. It’s easier that way. Maybe we just both have different outlooks on life.
(Also I do actually believe in life after death due to my own personal experiences, my Anything is possible outlook applies to life in general)
anyway I doubt we’ll agree so let’s agree to disagree eh! :love:
@GiantMidget 441750 wrote:
Yes but all that aside again I go back to the point of which I am making. Anything is possible, I am not blindly saying there is but again my point, Anything is possible. Just because there’s some evidence of the physical world doesn’t mean that an afterlife isn’t possible, again it’s human arrogance to assume we know it all. Hence why I sit on the fence and say it could be possible. It’s not saying there is or isn’t. It’s easier that way. Maybe we just both have different outlooks on life.
(Also I do actually believe in life after death due to my own personal experiences, my Anything is possible outlook applies to life in general)
anyway I doubt we’ll agree so let’s agree to disagree eh! :love:
But not anything is possible, its not possible that I am a fish. But indeed we shall not agree, always good to have a bit of debate I find it helps me learn stuff.
🙂
@extraslim 441759 wrote:
But not anything is possible, its not possible that I am a fish. But indeed we shall not agree, always good to have a bit of debate I find it helps me learn stuff.
🙂
You’re determined to find holes ain’t you. Damn you fish boy lmao!
@GiantMidget 441760 wrote:
You’re determined to find holes ain’t you. Damn you fish boy lmao!
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I would like to thank all of your replies, especially the first two, those from p0ly and manaman, they have made the most sense to me.
I now think that life is a spiritual journey, and we are here to improve ourselves. I will try my best to live in harmony with the world, and the people in it. The sheer fact that we exist, is to amazing to contemplate. There must be an afterlife.
I found this online, I think it is a fantastic analogy;
“To many people, the body is like how a television would be perceived by a man from the 19th century. If you showed him images of a movie on your TV screen, he would come to the very logical 19th century conclusion that the images are inside the TV. If the TV was broken and no longer worked, your visitor from the past would reasonably conclude that the images he had seen on the TV screen had stopped existing.
He would have no way of knowing that the images he had seen were actually invisible beams of energy from far away – and the TV was only a receiving device.
Many people in our own century are just like the 19th century fellow. They don’t realize that the “brain” is like a TV receiver, and that the energy still exists even when that receiver no longer functions”
@extraslim 441759 wrote:
But not anything is possible, its not possible that I am a fish. But indeed we shall not agree, always good to have a bit of debate I find it helps me learn stuff. 🙂
Do you know thats whales used to be dogs, i would never have thought that was possible, lifes amazing
It all boils down to whether or not you have faith. I ain’t talking about faith in God or the church or any of that man-made shit. I’m talking about faith in what you believe in. I believe in life after death because of my past experiences, these experiences have shown me that we exist after death. Contrary to earlier claims there is overwhelming evidence of life after death but because conventional science (Which is just as infallible) ridicules it then it is shunned by the mainstream. Doesn’t mean it’s not true. Even today we are discovering things which scientists said couldn’t of existed, no possible way, then we find them and Mr Science man backtracks.
What I’m getting at is it’s best to keep an open mind about life and the unknown. Make your own mind up.
what someone said about a tv earlier i think about it with stuff like video cameras and stuff. if modern day technology didn’t exist if someone told me you could capture an image and watch it back i’d say it was impossible. as i’ve seen it i know it is possible and true.
anything is possible, just because we have brains which store information don’t mean that if the brain ceases to work that that’s the end.
@extraslim 441759 wrote:
But not anything is possible, its not possible that I am a fish. But indeed we shall not agree, always good to have a bit of debate I find it helps me learn stuff.
🙂
For all you know you could be half way through a fishes dream!
@p0ly 441633 wrote:
DMT is the best. I rack my mind thinking about how can anything just come into existence, then i start thinking how can there be nothing, how can there be anything? over and over and over, it starts to freak me out that i cannot understand how it can be so i just come to the conclusion everything is infinite.
It’s all fractals man.
@Kung Fu Fader 441793 wrote:
For all you know you could be half way through a fishes dream!
good point it was a crap example
how about it is not possible that there is no such thing as the concept of tennis.
extraslim i think that there’s probably more to reality than our physical bodies sense, so if we die the way we are now goes but we can be free from this reality.
i don’t believe this but i don’t disbelieve it, just a thought innit 😉
a thing about these sort of debates as well is it’s quite an important topic to a lot of people so they hold their current beliefs strongly as denying a belief like god creating the world (that you believed since you were a little kid as an example) must be pretty hard to just let go of and think i’ve been believing a pile of shit my whole life and my family members (if they hold the same beliefs and who you look up to) weren’t as knowledgeable and smart as you thought.
obviously this doesn’t apply to all but to have a strong belief in atheism or spirituality and then someone tell you you’re wrong is quite hard to just accept in an instant.
though stuff like organised religion is obviously full of flaws and it’s a shame a lot of people cannot see how silly it is, people believe any old crap and fear is the most crippling tool used by religion to make you believe.
apparently we swallow 3 spiders a year, this was actually made up by someone to see how gullible people truly are!
Organised religion in my eyes is a farce. It was created as a means to control people and in turn control their spiritual development. The Roman Catholic church is one of the wealthiest bodies in the entire world, this is because they used fear as a weapon to coerce people into giving them their hard earned money. If you don’t pay a tithe then Hell awaits you. Eating meat on a Sunday, Satan’s pitchforks awaits you, If a priest didn’t like the look of you or wanted something of yours (ie your woman) then all he had to do is threaten you with eternal damnation and you would yield because you feared being sent to Hell. It’s totally ludicrous and I can’t believe people fell for this back in the day.
A few years ago, had I said what I said above, then I would most likely have met a fiery end upon a stake. Today’s society is not so different though. If you have views which are contrary to established science then you are ridiculed. made to look like a fool and ultimately any works are hushed up. why you ask, To stop us learning the truth. I won’t start bombarding you with links and data because I don’t want to peddle my beliefs on others (I’m not the Church) but I will say look into such matters for yourself and again make your own mind up.
For my next deep thinking I will explore why there is a bird outside my house which continues to chirp none stop. From 4am to 11pm at night. I will explore what it takes to dispatch it and whether this will affect my karma rating. Or I could just embrace it and chirp alongside it. :crazy:
@extraslim 441796 wrote:
good point it was a crap example
how about it is not possible that there is no such thing as the concept of tennis.
That’s something being NOT possable tho, he said “anything is possable”, not “anything is possably not possable”! However the concept of tennis is possable.
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